Riggles wrote:But then if you look at things like Sturges Road which is now into its 3rd round of design due to people not having enough money in their books to make the thing it seems unlikely. Even in the event they decided it was all go in 2003 there is the matter of providing for existing funding provisions and acquiring the funds for the new capital investment, certainly a few good rate increases would have helped things along.
Certainly what this is though is a very clear signal the the CBD loop is on its way. With the councils going through protecting the route and the government forking out money to get us electrified and rolling I have a feeling of optimism that whoever the transport minister is at the time will be turning the first bit of earth by 2020.
Yes, but if the will was there then priorities would have been made. Maybe the petrox tax would have happened sooner (and stayed happend under labor), or the sitting ARC would have sacrificed their chances of relection with a large rates rise. Maybe the last government who were happy to throw a billion at a new stadium might have been happy to throw it somewhere else if the region had stronger leadership on the matter.
It's just frustrating that five years ago the ARC came out with their plan that made sense, was fundable and a good strategic direction... and five years later we finally have the decision at all levels amounting to exactly the same thing.
I'm quietly confident on the CBD tunnel, I think it's more a question of 'when' not 'if'. But then again, how many times in the past has Auckland been closer than this to building the thing? One thing to remember is that the electrification project stands up on its own. One fear is that the central government will go 'right, there is your modern train network, nicely done' once the EMUs are running and forget about any ideas of expanding the network. Then it would be left to the region to try and sort it out alone.
By the way, a troll is someone who basically inflames the discussion for the purposes of firing people up and causing trouble, or someone that argues just to win rather than trying to push a particular point. I don't think there are any real trolls on the board, every seems to actually believe what they write, passionate or not.
I should still listen to Doloras.