grunter wrote:Matangi are in use in the Pram line- the 0900 has been one for several weeks now. And in-directly they are helping as with Matangi nin use on other services some Ganz sets have been able to be redeployed. eg the 0702 from Waikanae is now regularly an eight car train easing the congestion that used to occur on tis service.
However, it was always stated, right from the beginning, that the Kapiti line would be the last to get them in large numbers.
I see your point. But why put brand new Matangi’s on the line (off peak only), as standby for the existing rusty rodeos? Surely the old trains should be standing by for the new ones?
Yes I am aware that the Marangi’s were going to be deployed on the Kapiti last. But remember all of them should have been here over 6months ago. If its only 1 or two (off peak) services per day, out of something like over 50 daily Services from Wellington to Waikanae. Thats hardly a drop in the ocean. And the reason why thousands of daily commuters never get to ride on them.
mclgnd wrote:
A quick check of the timetable would tell you that no off-peak service terminates at Plimmerton. The only one that does is 3.42pm ex-Wellington - which is towards the start of the PM peak cycle.
Off-peak are all-stoppers to and from Waikanae, and as Kaiwhara has told you, with his sources whether those services are operated by a Matangi or not depends on several factors. I have been on a Matangi to Paraparaumu myself in the last two weeks, and that service continued north.
The following Wellington to Waikanae services require passengers to transfer. Wellington to Waikanae in the morning is not Peak? I would class only the opposite direction being peak. What good is the brand new Matangi’s running in the opposite direction? When it should be used for Peak? Waikanae -> Wellington in the mornings. Anybody have any idea why these trains are not being used at Peak times? Thats my question.
http://www.tranzmetro.co.nz/Timetable.a ... =1&ToID=72Departs
Wellington Transfer
Station Transfer
Departs Arrives
Waikanae
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6:48am Plimmerton 7:19am 7:50am
7:11am Plimmerton 8:04am 8:35am
7:20am Porirua 7:56am 8:35am
7:41am Porirua 8:41am 9:20am
8:02am Porirua 8:41am 9:20am
8:11am Plimmerton 8:49am 9:20am
3:03pm Porirua 3:37pm 4:16pm
3:27pm Porirua 3:52pm 4:30pm
3:42pm Porirua 4:12pm 4:50pm
3:59pm Porirua 4:32pm 5:10pm
4:21pm Porirua 4:52pm 5:30pm
4:43pm Porirua 5:12pm 5:50pm
5:03pm Porirua 5:34pm 6:12pm
5:19pm Porirua 5:52pm 6:30pm
5:45pm Porirua 6:17pm 6:55pm
6:03pm Porirua 6:35pm 7:14pm
Flippikat wrote:I think there's a fair point in param's posting - it is obvious that the original time frames look really optimistic in hindsight - but I don't think there's much to be gained in slagging Metlink, or the Council, or anyone involved in the project just for the sake of it.
However, I hope that lessons are learned from the Matangi commissioning that help Auckland's EMU project run a little more smoothly.. especially in publishing targets that are more achievable and informing the public when things go wrong.
As grunter says - nit-picking over the Kapiti line is a bit silly when they did say that it would be the last line to see big numbers of Matangi.
The positive point is that the project is rolling along now in a way that many people are starting to see the benefits - We'll see that on March 19 when Johnsonville switches over
Finally somebody maybe seeing the light? I am not slagging anybody for the fun of it. My point all along is to just accept accountability for the delays. If The council/kiwirail etc were run like normal companies heads would role. Why is it different? Why is nobody being taken to book and accepting responsibility. There have been big stuff ups throughout these projects, from many different parties. What I am seeing is just excuses and excuses after silence and more silence. Its been a combination of bad planning, bad management etc right from the beginning. And yes hopefully Auckland can learn something from Wellington as how to NOT commission a project.
