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Christchurch Private Sidings

Postby Gerald Petrie » Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:59 am

There are big changes taking place at Mainfreight at Sockburn in Christchurch.

Some years back Mainfreight purchased some land on McAlpine Street that had previously been rented to Waste Management for the storage of skips. Last year this building was built on the site. It does not have rail access, but it does provide useful capacity as there is a lot of demolition going on.

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The shot below depicts one of the Mainfreight sidings viewed from Hayton Road. Here more construction is beginning, but watch the blue building on the right.

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The blue building is promptly chopped, and a new siding installed.

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Now watch the siding that goes between the buildings.

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All the track was lifted, and placed beside the Daily Freight building just East of the Mainfreight complex. The siding the tracksets are sitting on is formerly that of the Canterbury Seed Company. The "Fourth Road" is the line between the tracksets and the two mains.

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Look at this view below of Mainfreight, taken from the Sockburn footbridge May last year.

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Now look at this view taken yesterday from the opposite end.

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This big blue building will be gone soon.

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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby pete » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:02 pm

So what are Mainfreight planning here? Is this an expansion, or just a reorganisation?
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby Gerald Petrie » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:06 pm

pete wrote:So what are Mainfreight planning here? Is this an expansion, or just a reorganisation?


A massive new complex. If I've been informed correctly, they'll be building over some railway land, as well as their own.
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby Gibbo » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:31 pm

Check this out, it has a description of the work going on at Sockburn...(pg 8)
http://www.mainfreight.com/Files/Downlo ... 202013.pdf
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby luke.xensen » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:09 pm

Heard the siding that crossed McAlpine St was being reconnected for Mainstream, who recently opened new premises with rail siding in Otahuhu. Can anyone confirm this?
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby eurokiwi78 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:50 pm

i dont know about the christchurch one but it would make sense, they opened a wellington sidings a few months back too.
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby Gerald Petrie » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:10 am

Mainstream Freight occupy the former Wilder's Transport yard which fronts onto Jipco Road. The yard also has access to the McAlpine Street Siding. In April work started on cleaning up the siding, as no party had used the siding since Wilders went bust last century.

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As the siding is on its own Railway Reserve, Kiwirail were responsible for refurbishing the siding. After removing weeds and topsoil build-up, spot resleepering took place with new treated pine sleepers.

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A lot of new black painted bedplates were inserted as well.

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According to an internal Kiwirail newsletter, a trial shunt entered the siding in total darkness in the morning of Thursday 11 July 2013.

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The first revenue shunt went into the siding at the end of July. The photo below was taken on the 3rd of August.

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Jipco Road is behind the photographer.
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby Gerald Petrie » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:20 am

Peter Baker Transport between Sockburn and Hornby have outgrown their siding and building. The view below is facing south; Ravensdown and Hornby are in the distance.

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Peter Baker Transport will be building a new shed with siding just a few hundred metres towards Sockburn on the industrial subdivision on land that was previously the Sockburn Abattoir. Lot 7 has the longest railway frontage, and is 1.6 hectares (about 3 acres); perhaps this is the Peter Baker site?

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The photo below was taken from the Sockburn Over-bridge; note the third road (which was the fourth track from the left) has been lifted. I'm not sure when it was lifted; it was still there in the mid 1990s.

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The third road presently ends at this heap of shingle at the 18.5km peg. The Peter Baker siding can just be made out heading off into the dark trees on the right.

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It is understood the third road is to be reinstated between Sockburn Yard and the 18.5km peg. Interestingly, the third road (like the fourth road) was laid in increments. A piece once served as the private siding for the Sockburn Abattoir, (then known as Canterbury Bye Products). See the drawing below which dates from about 1957.

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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby pete » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:01 am

Great photos, thank you. Do Ravensdown still use their rail siding?
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby eurokiwi78 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:11 am

the last few months have seen quite a few either new or reopened sidings around the place. Is good to see.
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby Gerald Petrie » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:09 pm

pete wrote:Great photos, thank you. Do Ravensdown still use their rail siding?


I'm not aware of them using rail; perhaps someone else knows more. When a fertilizer ship arrives at Lyttelton, a fleet of truck works through the night until it is unloaded.

I remember back in the 1990s Ravensdown had a constant grizzle with Tranz Rail over there not being enough CF wagons. This was during the period when more and more CF wagons were being re-classed CB and used on Midland coal. The pleasing thing about Ravensdown is they have had the good sense to keep their siding; I remember one regime that would have been quite pleased to rip their siding out.
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby eurokiwi78 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:32 pm

theyve also kept their sidings at taratahi in the wairarapa, despite the mainline connection being severed. It would be good to see ravensdown increase their use of rail again.
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:34 pm

I have found some very good aerial photography of Christchurch
http://canterburymaps.govt.nz/apps/tourofchch

This has opened up new insights into private sidings at a number of stations as it goes back as far as 1941.
http://facebook.com/NZRailMaps
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby duddley » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:24 am

With all the sidings that are being built/re opened around the country is it likely that KR will need to invest in a new fleet of shunters to handle the heavier and more frequent loads?.
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby Gerald Petrie » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:27 am

Kahukowhai wrote:I have found some very good aerial photography of Christchurch
http://canterburymaps.govt.nz/apps/tourofchch

This has opened up new insights into private sidings at a number of stations as it goes back as far as 1941.


Thanks for that Patrick. I note you have been producing some interesting research in recent times; this is to be encouraged.

With the Christchurch aerial photo site - how do you get rid of the blasted scroll bar at the bottom of the screen?
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:45 am

Can also use the GIS viewer in the Canterbury Maps website to access a number of different aerial layers going back to 1941 and covering significant amounts of Christchurch/North Canterbury
http://facebook.com/NZRailMaps
http://bit.ly/NZRailMaps
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:48 am

Gerald, go to here instead, I just discovered it

http://canterburymaps.govt.nz/Viewer/

A window pops up asking you what map you want, choose Imagery & LIDAR

The next window gives you the exact one. It is all called "Greater Christchurch Aerial Imagery"
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:54 am

Gerald Petrie wrote:
Kahukowhai wrote:I have found some very good aerial photography of Christchurch
http://canterburymaps.govt.nz/apps/tourofchch

This has opened up new insights into private sidings at a number of stations as it goes back as far as 1941.


Thanks for that Patrick. I note you have been producing some interesting research in recent times; this is to be encouraged.

With the Christchurch aerial photo site - how do you get rid of the blasted scroll bar at the bottom of the screen?


My research interest is drawing maps. We have a Yahoo discussion group for this project at
http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/nzrailmaps/
http://facebook.com/NZRailMaps
http://bit.ly/NZRailMaps
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby Gerald Petrie » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:07 pm

The demolition of the big blue Mainfreight building at Sockburn yard has been completed. View taken from McAlpine Street.
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Here's what the site looked like about two year's ago.
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Re: Sockburn Private Sidings

Postby Gerald Petrie » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:25 pm

Probably in anticipation of the 3rd Road being re-laid in Sockburn, the adjacent mainline is being spot re-sleepered.
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Many of the sleepers being recovered are in quite good condition. One wonders if they will be used for the 3rd Road.

If the 3rd Road is to be re-laid through here, the graffiti covered shed that is visible will have to be removed. I have heard the reinstatement of the 3rd Road allows for the removal of a facing point on a main in Hornby Yard. Presently the existing Peter Baker and Americold sidings are worked through Hornby, the shunt having to cross over main lines to get there.
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The last view is approximately adjacent to the new Peter Baker site.
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