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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Gerald Petrie » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:50 am

In Patrick's 1965 aerial photos the formation of two private sidings can be seen opposite the Certified Concrete private siding. The siding directly opposite Certified heading to the sawtooth roofed building is I understand Austral Standard Cables. The other formation, closer to Halswell Junction Road, I believe had been lifted in 1961. Owned then by Dunedin firm Arthur Ellis and Co., it was formerly the siding of Goss Timber and Box Co.

The Railway Department was advised on 29 August 1950 that Goss Timber and Box Co. had purchased 8 acres fronting Halswell Junction Road, and an enquiry was made about the possibility of a private siding. To received this siding, the company was compelled to contribute 25% of the cost of the private siding loop. In actuality their siding would branch off the back-shunt. The 6 chain long siding was noted in use in June 1951. Interestingly, during construction, 22 wagons of ballast were sourced from Certified's siding in what must have been a fascinating steam hauled zig-zag operation.

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A public notice in the Press of 12 December 1955 indicated the Goss Timber and Box Co. was to be wound up. William Goss, despite his debts, managed to retain ownership of the land. In April 1956 he sold 5 acres fronting Hallswell Junction Road to Arthur Ellis and Co. Goss retained an L-shaped piece of land which included a 30 link wide "private siding reserve". Ellis's had the right to load and unload off the siding, but there is no mention of them ever doing so. About 1960, Ellis and Co. bought the L-shaped piece of land and asked NZR to lift the siding. However, it was then noted Crown Crystal were trying to buy the property, and this put a halt to the lifting. When that deal fell through, Austral Standard Cables began negotiating with Ellis and Co. to buy the track for their new complex. The file ended on that note. As Austral's siding was of similar shape and length, it sits well with me if they did buy the track and shift it.

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Austral Standard Cable's siding would have been new in this May 1962 shot. The sawtooth roofed building was demolished last year.

The Austral siding still exists, but I expect there have been many changes of owners.
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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:38 pm

Have a look at the aerials for yourself
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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:06 am

I am currently comparing the 1973 aerial footage used as a basis of the map, with earlier and later footage.

1955 comparison:

41 Shands Rd was a smaller building than in later years. The complex later named "Laminex" was only partly developed. From there to HJ road on the west side was largely undeveloped except as mentioned below. On the east side only Certified Concrete and Vibrapac sidings were seen. The Watties site was undeveloped.

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A previously undetected siding was found at 644 Halswell Junction Road as shown on the map below.

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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:14 am

1965 comparison

41 Shands Road building developed to its ultimate size.
"Laminex" almost fully developed.
The main UEB building constructed and the second building partly built. Their complex looked very new.
85 Shands Rd built and siding in place.
650 HJ Rd built with siding in place.
644 HJ Rd siding appears overgrown or possibly removed by that stage.
CC siding in place.
Vibrapac in place.
No sign of Watties so it must have been built between 1965 and 1973.
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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:23 am

1984 comparison. The coverage is not as sharp so difficult in places.

41 Shands Rd siding appears disused or lifted.
"Laminex" difficult to see.
UEB probably still used.
Some usage of 65 Shands Rd but mainly in the part nearest the main line where it may be serving a building on the "Laminex" site.
650 HJ Rd in use.
CC well gone and the car wreckers yard that I remember may be using some of the land by this stage.
Vibrapac in use.
Watties had been further developed from 1973 with the extra siding leg parallel to Shands Rd at the rear of their premises in use by then.
Prebbleton yard was well used, having become the terminus of the HIL in 1967 when the section through to Lincoln was closed.
Prebbleton yard was by then occupied by "Southern Rail" with numerous wagons present.
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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:34 am

1994 comparison (very fuzzy)
UEB siding probably in use
85 Shands Rd had rakes of wagons in both of the areas (apparently both "Laminex" and CCG were served).
Not easy to see 650 HJ Rd.
96 Branston St had been built and the siding appears to be in place.
"Vibrapac" buildings still in place but the siding appears to be gone.
I need to correct the earlier map because the building later "Toll" was built by this stage (along with its siding) and did not overlap the Vibrapac building as previously shown.
Watties in use.
Prebbleton abandoned.
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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:30 pm

Gerald Petrie wrote:A public notice in the Press of 12 December 1955 indicated the Goss Timber and Box Co. was to be wound up.


Goss's Timber had in the mid 1940s established a sawmilling operation at Balmoral on the Waiau Branch under the ownership of the Balmoral Timber Co. In November 1955 the mill and nearly 8000 acres of forest were burned down in a major fire. I wonder if there was any connection between this fire and the failure of the company shortly thereafter.

The following year incidentally marble chips from near Balmoral began to be railed from the station to Vibrapac at Hornby which continued until about 1977.
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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:40 pm

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As Gerald has previously detailed, this complex of buildings was the site of the Crown Crystal Glass factory. From what I can discover they were established in 1950 and the works closed in 1987. This aerial shot was taken in 1973 and by that stage "Laminex" had appears on the roof of one of the buildings. Hence I referred to this complex as "Laminex" in earlier posts. I don't really know whether Laminex was related to CCG or was a separate operation at the time. Laminex became part of Fletcher Challenge while AHI became part of Carter Holt Harvey.

The main complex of buildings at the CCG/Laminex site, by making use of historical GE imagery, appears to have been demolished sometime between January 2007 and February 2008. The imagery at the latter date shows machinery crawling all over the site and Seymour Street extension, which passed through a corner of the site, under construction. The site remained vacant for years afterwards, still being empty of buildings when the latest GE imagery was taken last September, although it was then being used for storage.

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Here we have a building with a shelter over the first part of the "Hygrade" siding, built by CCG. This particular building and a couple of smaller ones next to it lasted a bit longer than the rest of the site; they finally disappeared between March 2009 and October 2009. The building appeared sometime between 1955 and 1965, and when seen in the latter year's aerials, already featured the shelter with a rake of wagons parked directly under it.

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In this aerial (1973), apart from "Laminex" you can also see a caption of a Panaramio photo referring to a house on the CCG boundary. This house appears to have been since demolished.
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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:43 pm

And lastly the Hygrade buildings were still standing last September although extended in recent years and now known as CHH Packaging.
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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Gerald Petrie » Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:20 pm

This is a study of chainage and private sidings of the Southbridge Branch. It is not complete, and contributions are welcome.
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And while I'm on the subject, does anyone have a genuine NZR list of station and infrastructure meterage?
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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:47 pm

So here is the full set of updated maps, 21 in all. From Hornby to Lincoln as the line was known.

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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:00 pm

Gerald Petrie wrote:This is a study of chainage and private sidings of the Southbridge Branch. It is not complete, and contributions are welcome.
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Very good :)

Prebble Seeds is the interesting one, because although it had shelters at the back of the premises, none of the aerials I have seen showed any track formations (they were all fairly obvious for every other siding). The premises appeared between 1965 and 1973.

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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:03 pm

Gerald Petrie wrote:This is a study of chainage and private sidings of the Southbridge Branch. It is not complete, and contributions are welcome.


I don't know whether Coolpak/Polarcold actually was a siding. It appeared as a shelter built directly over the "main line" when I saw it.
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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Gerald Petrie » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:35 pm

Coolpak did not appear in any list I've seen, but it does appear in these following pieces, which you might find amusing. Pleased you took a photo of it; I drove past it for years and never bothered.
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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:02 pm

These days, Watties siding is effectively split into Watties and Tegels, although the latter might not be used.

Tegel Foods was part of Heinz Watties until 2005 when it was sold. The premises are fenced off from Watties, which included the separation of a leg of the siding.
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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:52 am

41 Shands Rd was probably the Dominion Brewery warehouse. I worked there as a student holiday job in the Dec84/Jan85 holidays. I don't think the siding was in use at that time and certainly have no recollection of seeing a siding or any railway vehicles in the warehouse.
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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:54 am

Kahukowhai wrote:41 Shands Rd was probably the Dominion Brewery warehouse. I worked there as a student holiday job in the Dec84/Jan85 holidays. I don't think the siding was in use at that time and certainly have no recollection of seeing a siding or any railway vehicles in the warehouse.


Although it was previously suggested the building was replaced after the earthquake, it is possible it was simply re-roofed with the angle ended part at the rearmost (east end) demolished. This is based on streetview pictures of the front suggesting it retains a dated appearance from the original building. The original roof was probably corrugated asbestos sheeting.

The rail siding was connected with a long shelter at the south side of the shed. There may have been a short "backshunt" going into another short shelter at the east end of the building as GE coverage shows there is still some rail embedded into the concrete at this end of the building in 2012. Both of these side shelters were removed many years ago.

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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:59 am

The Crown Crystal Glass siding as Gerald mentions had two sidings denoted.

In addition to those locations which are shown on the posted plan, there appears to have been another location in the large building at the north-eastern boundary of the site. As of 2009 the GE aerials showed track embedded in the concrete foundation of the building.

This building for a time had "Laminex" prominently displayed on its roof. Laminex may or may not have been part of AHI. Laminex is now part of Fletcher Challenge while AHI is part of Carter Holt Harvey.

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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:24 pm

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This screengrab from the CSM2 animation flyover shows the changes at the point where it crosses the HIL. The building in the middle is Prebble Seeds, the current end of line. At extreme left middle the curved side of the building is where the Watties siding runs.

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Re: Hornby Industrial Line Sidings

Postby Kahukowhai » Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:53 pm

Kahukowhai wrote:
Gerald Petrie wrote:This is a study of chainage and private sidings of the Southbridge Branch. It is not complete, and contributions are welcome.


Very good :)

Prebble Seeds is the interesting one, because although it had shelters at the back of the premises, none of the aerials I have seen showed any track formations (they were all fairly obvious for every other siding). The premises appeared between 1965 and 1973.



My take on Prebble Seeds will be that it was designed to have siding installed, but the installation was never actually undertaken.
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