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Labour Party transport policy for Christchurch

Postby matthew25187 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:34 pm

Labour invests in Christchurch transport

Labour is pledging to create a commuter rail service with free wifi for Christchurch if it forms the next government.

Party leader David Cunliffe announced this morning plans for a ''21st century rapid transport system'' which include working with local councils to create a commuter rail linking Rolleston and Rangiora with Christchurch.

He said the trains and stations would be safe and modern and would include free wifi for commuters.
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Full story here.
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Re: Labour Party transport policy for Christchurch

Postby matthew25187 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:54 pm

Labour would seek some co-investment from councils as part of its partnership on cost-sharing.

How is the Christchurch City Council supposed to invest in new public transport projects when it is looking for ways to curtail its expenditure to avoid a budget crisis? They hardly need to be loaded up with more obligations.

Twyford said the second phase, which would also cost about $100m, would link Rolleston and other stops in the west and would likely begin in a few years.

With improved road links to and in Christchurch, how can they be sure that there'll be sufficient demand for passenger rail to Rolleston? Rangiora would probably be the most viable destination for any commuter rail service to Christchurch because of the access constraints created by the Waimakariri River, issues that don't affect the likes of Rolleston.

This would likely involve a new line running from Riccarton past the hospital and bus interchange to the Moorhouse station to create a central city link.

First of all, there isn't a Moorhouse station any more. Second, I don't see how you'd get a railway line through Hagley Park approved, let alone built. Hagley Park is like a sacred cow and the locals are not going to be happy with any further development of it. Third, they are talking about areas that have some of the busiest roads in Christchurch. Putting another railway line through there would likely cause traffic chaos as Hamilton discovered and ended up trenching the railway line.

The way this link is described, it looks like a "loop" route, which seems unnecessary. Surely it'd be easier to build a spur line to minimise impact on existing land use?

Cunliffe said as an interim measure, Labour envisaged that shuttle buses would service the central business district from the Riccarton station.

Depending on where you put the, presumably new, Riccarton station (since the original is long gone), there'd already be bus routes running near by the station site along Riccarton Road and Kilmarnock Street. Are they envisaging that there'd be new, additional bus services connecting the railway station to the central city?

I notice the (media) story didn't once mention (the existing) Addington station: are Labour expecting that Riccarton will become some sort of commuter rail hub?
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Re: Labour Party transport policy for Christchurch

Postby JSH » Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:29 pm

The main message to take away from this policy announcement is that Labour supports implementing commuter rail services in Christchurch. It is also heavily implied in the article that the vision is for this plan to be delivered incrementally over many years in stages, so we aren't talking the "here and now". Politicians always talk idealistically at these types of policy launches, I wouldn't take some of the ideas too literally or over-analyse it too much.


matthew25187 wrote:With improved road links to and in Christchurch, how can they be sure that there'll be sufficient demand for passenger rail to Rolleston? Rangiora would probably be the most viable destination for any commuter rail service to Christchurch because of the access constraints created by the Waimakariri River, issues that don't affect the likes of Rolleston.


Rolleston is New Zealand's fastest growing urban area. It makes sense to apply a balanced transport package over the coming years to handle access and congestion along what is one of the cities most crucial, busiest, and fast developing corridors. I thought we learnt our lesson about putting all our eggs in one basket?

matthew25187 wrote:I notice the (media) story didn't once mention (the existing) Addington station: are Labour expecting that Riccarton will become some sort of commuter rail hub?


The announcement was made near the station, which would be a hub for the network, apparently: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11317462
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Re: Labour Party transport policy for Christchurch

Postby matthew25187 » Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:04 am

JSH wrote:The main message to take away from this policy announcement is that Labour supports implementing commuter rail services in Christchurch. It is also heavily implied in the article that the vision is for this plan to be delivered incrementally over many years in stages, so we aren't talking the "here and now". Politicians always talk idealistically at these types of policy launches, I wouldn't take some of the ideas too literally or over-analyse it too much.

Oh, I think the detail is important. Bob Parker supported light rail too, but when people saw more detail on what he was proposing and the $400m price tag, they were rightly concerned about the whole scheme.
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Re: Labour Party transport policy for Christchurch

Postby matthew25187 » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:37 am

JSH wrote:The announcement was made near the station, which would be a hub for the network, apparently: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11317462

Yes, made at some place called "Addington Road", which doesn't exist in Christchurch, so who knows where they really were. :)
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Re: Labour Party transport policy for Christchurch

Postby luke.xensen » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:14 pm

Nothing is said about light rail in the Labour proposal. Assume they will start with the well researched $10 million quick start proposal, that NZTA dismissed for spurious reasons, and Ecan had to dismiss because have little money. That proposal had cheap new station at Riccarton Road to interchange with frequent buses.
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