papakurasufferer wrote:Which problem would you rather have? Too many people using trains or not enough? Currently we have the latter.
I would beg to differ; while many trains don't have enough passengers, some peak services have too much.
Andrew wrote:Full services, while annoying and infuriating in the moment, are likely to make a good case to justify more funding in the longer run (think CRL).
Andrew, you know, and I know that full trains did not make a good case to justify more funding in the longer run back in the 1990s - even though peak trains were running at crush load for the best part of eight years. The best way to justify more funding is an increase in off-peak patronage - through increasing off-peak patronage, you reduce the level of subsidy required and make people realise that perhaps public transport isn't so much of a drain on the budget as people thought it was.
Nick R wrote:A Manukau station has been considered ever since Manukau was created.
That's news to me - I never quite realised that a Manukau Station has been considered ever since 1876!
Nick R wrote:The political decision was when the old MCC voted to not contribute extra funds to the project to build a Davies Ave bridge to allow the tracks to pass under to a station in the old MCC offices carpark. Whether that was a sober piece of budgeting or a move by Quax and his buddies to avoid spending anything on public transport if they can help it I don't know, but it certainly was political.
Surely Len Brown could have said something then - but he didn't and I am surprised that no-one points it out. When I point out that it was under the first Banks council that the current CBD Loop plans came out, everyone makes all manner of excuses.
kaiwhara wrote:The current rules do not allow trains reversing direction at Puhinui without filling in a dreaded SWA1! So no, you can't run Papakura to Manukau via Puhinui...
Out of curiousity, what is dreaded about an SWA1?
geoff_184 wrote:Apparently Veolia's timetable planners were prevented from drawing up a new timetable with good network connections by AT, who instructed them to not make any changes to existing services, and just splice the Manukau trains into the available gaps. Thus, we have situations such as empty Manukau-Britomart trains running right behind overloaded Papakura-Britomart trains, and a 56 minute transfer wait at Otahuhu if you want to go to Newmarket.
Although the opposite of that is if you wanted to get from Papakura to, say, Sylvia Park, you would end up with a lengthy transfer wait. Until the Manukau Line opened, there was no direct public transport connection between Manukau and the likes of Sylvia Park, whilst there has been a direct public transport connection between Manukau and Newmarket since at least the 1970s.
Chris Randal. wrote:Some new blood, even some un-degreed members of this board, would have been a major advance on some of the entrenched attitudes that have persisted at official level since time immemorial!
Is that a snipe at me?
Chris Randal. wrote:One day I'm going set out what I would do if I ruled the world (owned the NZ railway system, that is)
Ah, is a what would I do if I became dictator thread in the offing?