Greater Wellington seeks feedback on Otaki transport

[Johnny T]

http://www.metlink.org.nz/have-your-say ... transport/

Are they trying to angle for an extension of electrification perhaps?

[greenwelly]

http://www.metlink.org.nz/have-your-say-on-otaki-public-transport/

Are they trying to angle for an extension of electrification perhaps?

No, There is no immediate plan or funding to even look at Otaki electrification.

This will all be about placating the issues that have arisen and resulted in people in Otaki/Te Horo/Peka Peka being unhappy at having to transfer at Waikanae after their bus services were terminated there rather than at Paraparaumu (where most of them are trying to get to)

[john-ston]

Ideally, I would like to see a service once each hour from either Paraparaumu or Waikanae through to Otaki - that would be an ideal predecesor to potential electrification extension.

[Chris Randal.]

Ideally, I would like to see a service once each hour from either Paraparaumu or Waikanae through to Otaki - that would be an ideal predecesor to potential electrification extension.

With what?

[scooter]

Ideally, I would like to see a service once each hour from either Paraparaumu or Waikanae through to Otaki - that would be an ideal predecesor to potential electrification extension.

With what?

Spare blue rattlers?

[Chris Randal.]

Ideally, I would like to see a service once each hour from either Paraparaumu or Waikanae through to Otaki - that would be an ideal predecesor to potential electrification extension.

With what?

Spare blue rattlers?

I didn't think of that!

They'll be needed in Auckland until 2013!

[john-ston]

With what?

Buses of course! If these hourly services get packed during peak hour and get reasonable loads in the off-peak, then it would be time for the service to become a rail service (i.e. an extension of the Waikanae Line).

[Chris Randal.]

With what?

Buses of course! If these hourly services get packed during peak hour and get reasonable loads in the off-peak, then it would be time for the service to become a rail service (i.e. an extension of the Waikanae Line).

I don't believe that bus travel on SH1 can used as any sort of basis for deciding to run a train.

[Rail-it]

I didn't think of that!

They'll be needed in Auckland until 2013!

I'm sure that 3 looks like a 5!!!lol.

[Chris Randal.]

I didn't think of that!

They'll be needed in Auckland until 2013!

I'm sure that 3 looks like a 5!!!lol.

I wouldn't laugh if I were you.......

Might be closer to 2019.

There's an idea 23MAR19 - My seventieth birthday present!

[Brentaki]

I am aware that rail eletrification was proposed as part of one of the WRRP put out by Greater Wellington. Whether this will actually happen or not is yet to be seen. It was one of there suggestions for post 2020.

I cannot see how buses can continue to operate efficiently along SH1 when they have to compete with rush hour traffic.

[Rail-it]

I didn't think of that!

They'll be needed in Auckland until 2013!

I'm sure that 3 looks like a 5!!!lol.

I wouldn't laugh if I were you.......

Might be closer to 2019.

There's an idea 23MAR19 - My seventieth birthday present!

Gee, by then they'll be near retiring all the current equipment. -if it hasn't fallen apart first.

[john-ston]

I don't believe that bus travel on SH1 can used as any sort of basis for deciding to run a train.

Chris, if you have fifty or a hundred passengers per hour using an Otaki to Waikanae/Paraparaumu bus and then linking onto the Tranz Metro network, then that can easily be used to justify running a train service.

I cannot see how buses can continue to operate efficiently along SH1 when they have to compete with rush hour traffic.

How much peak hour traffic is there north of Waikanae? I doubt that it would be a massive problem.

[Brentaki]

I cannot see how buses can continue to operate efficiently along SH1 when they have to compete with rush hour traffic.

How much peak hour traffic is there north of Waikanae? I doubt that it would be a massive problem.

Not enough to build an expressway. The traffic issues around Otaki can be quite bad at weekends. On long weekends the road would have an average speed of around 30/40kph I'd say - on a good day. It wouldn't be worth going to work the friday before any long weekends if you lived in Otaki.

[Johnny T]

Would like to see electrification to Otaki happen, but it's down the list of priorities right now I suppose.

[keg]

From GW:

Have your say on proposed options for better public transport services in the Otaki area.
We need your feedback by Sunday 11 December 2011.

Greater Wellington Regional Council is reviewing public transport in Otaki, Peka Peka and Te Horo.

Thanks to all of those who took part in the first stage of the review which was carried out in May and June 2011.

We've listened to what you told us and have developed some options for services to better meet your needs.
We are suggesting two timetable options for weekday and weekend services that we would like your feedback on.
These options propose to remove some very poorly used bus trips which carry fewer than two passengers per trip.
The money saved from these would fund other trips that people have indicated they would be more likely to use.

For details about the options, please download the Otaki Public Transport Review brochure.

Briefly the options are:

Otaki Weekday – Option A
Option with 9.15am and 10.45am departures from Otaki to Waikanae.

Otaki Weekday – Option B
Coastlands Option providing offpeak trips to and from Coastlands .

Otaki Weekend – Option A
Low use trips removed and replaced with trips during the day providing a bus every two hours on Saturday only.

Otaki Weekend – Option B
Low use trips removed. This enables us to run a reduced timetable on both Saturday and Sunday.

[keg]

Piece in the Kapiti Observer:

Otaki miffed by transport review
JOEL MAXWELL
28/11/2011

Otaki's public transport review has left the town's community board cold on proposals that provide a "minor" tweak of a service already cut in February.

The board's draft submission on the review calls for it to take a strategic view of the public transport problems in Otaki.

"The limited nature of this review is disappointing in its lack of improvements for Otaki passengers. They will have a lower level of service than before the rail extension to Waikanae and the review offers little or no recompense, just a minor rearrangement within existing services."

Meeting tomorrow, board members will approve a submission on the review - promised by Greater Wellington Regional Council after it cut direct bus trips to Paraparaumu.

The regional council has already stated it has no more money for increasing the Otaki service, the draft report said. Respondents have also refused to pay more rates for an increased service in the review.
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